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Big Guns Take Aim at Federal Hiring Problem

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Big Guns Take Aim at Federal Hiring Problem

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For a long time there has been a lot of empty noise about the federal hiring process. Now the squeaky wheel is finally getting some high-level grease.

Peter Orszag, director of the Office of Management and Budget, has put agency and department heads on notice about the urgent need to fix federal hiring. He gave them six months to make progress in four areas that Orszag indicated are only the beginning.

This marks a stronger, more aggressive role by the Obama administration in...

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    Account Removed

    almost 5 years ago

    After running my own business for 16 years and now being unemployed and having to work with government agencies to get unemployment income and food stamps for the first time in my life, I now realize why the government is broke. They fail to run their businesses like the self employed have to run theirs to stay afloat. OK, so they say government has to operate with a "public service" mentality rather than a profit mentality. Where's the service? I believe the government needs to start running their business for profit and make some employees accountable for their lack of service. You can't have it both ways... no service and no profit! These federal and state employees have cushy jobs and still treat citizens like we are a thorn in their behinds. SERIOUSLY...there needs to be some accountability for carrying out responsibilities. I've been a Business Administration Director for 18 years. PLEASE give me the job!

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    BonnieOBrien

    almost 5 years ago

    4 comments

    I recently worked as a contractor hired by the DoD to address these very issues. It appears that agencies want to change, however do not have the depth or knowledge HOW to initiate the changes necessary to overhaul this system. Private business has many tools and the knowledge of what it takes to hire good people. The government just needs to listen to us and move forward with some of our recommendations and suggestions and they will get out of the mired mess they are in with respect to hiring in a timely manner.

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    dward

    almost 5 years ago

    4 comments

    I retired from the US Army about ten years ago and I have not been able to get into the Logistics Department of the VA Hospital or the Homeland Security Agency after applying for several positions. Most of the applications takes a few hours to complete and not to hear any information back from the agency makes you wonder why should I want to be part of a organization that can't say THANK YOU FOR APPLYING BUT WE FOUND SOMEONE LESS QUALIFIED FOR THE POSITION. I have over 25 years of Logistics service and it's beyond me how I get overlooked (maybe the good old boy system). I guess I was good enough for the Army but not qualified enough to assist my fellow soldiers on our grounds in the United States. It's passed time for someone to start looking into these processes and let some of the great servicemembers who supported their country in the times of need be rewarded for a job well done. I know lots of people are being overlooked and really deserve some of these positions. How about showing our Vet's how much you appreciate their service because they volunteered to put their life on the line while the rest of the Untied State was asleep.

    Sir, Thank you in advance for noticing the problems within the system and having the respect for your great servicemembers.

    Respectfully,
    Darryl

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    andalwisye2

    almost 5 years ago

    2 comments

    It's about time!! Too many fiefdom's have been allowed to grow, which hampers the entire process - too many good people can't move up the ladder and too many are forced to start way to low, especially Vets - and too many are often delayed so long they drop out of the precess

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    PROTON

    almost 5 years ago

    4 comments

    I AM A VERTERAN WITH PREFRENCE AND REESTATABLE HERE IN PENNSYLVANIA COATESVILLE.I HAVE APPLIED FOR JOBS I QUALIFY FOR AND CAME TO FIND OUT EVERYBODY AND THEIR GRAND MA WHO ARE CIVILIANS ARE GETTING HIRED. THIS MADE ME LOOK INTO THINGS A LITTLE MORE AN THIS VA HOSPITAL NEEDS TO BE INVESTIGATED CAUSE THEY ARE KEEPING VETS WHO FOUGHT FOR THIS COUNTRY OUT OF WORK. EVERYBODY HERE IS A RELATIVE. WHATS WRONG WITH THAT PICTURE SIR.

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    sarahmdgal

    almost 5 years ago

    2 comments

    I applied for over 100 government positions--every one was either cancelled, or I never even received a acknowledgement response. Plus, the process is so confusing, complicated, and even with classes I have taken, there is no consistency from one agency to another. Why can't we just submit a typical resume, let the agency contact us, and then do any paperwork at the time of the interview -- if there ever would be one? I really don't think the U.S. Government practices what it preaches -- I do not want to spend 10 hours applying for ONE job only to have the listing cancelled or not even get a reply. It is insulting, and I have been able to get jobs elsewhere much faster. I don't want to apply again--it is too depressing to try now. I don't believe the U.S. Government truly wants people to work for it.

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    deborahwhite

    almost 5 years ago

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    I agree with you smcelest! Getting a clerance is so hard, and filling out thejob application and questionaires is so time consuming, you want to quit and say forget it! After you submit everything that they ask for, it's so long before you hear anything about the job, you forget you even applied! And yes, some of these jobs are already spoken foir, they just announce them just for legal reasons. When I see a job that I'm qualified for, I have a masters degree and I am in my first year of my doctorate, plus I have 18 years of working for the Dept of Defense before getting laid off in 2008, I don't get excited because I know it will be a long drawn out process! Guess what everybody, I am still unemployed with 3 college degrees and 18 years experence working for the govt. Go figure!!!!!

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    reneehaufbennett

    almost 5 years ago

    2 comments

    Useless to apply to jobs unless you have an inside connection-----get a life!

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    smceleste

    almost 5 years ago

    2 comments

    I have applied for HUNDREDS of jobs... same thing Clearance, 20 years military experience, Masters Degree in SECURITY MANAGEMENT and I can't get hired by Homeland Defense! Just too frustrating. For a while I made it a routine to apply for one job a day, since it takes at least 3 hours to complete an application (plus questionaires and supporting documents). It's about time somebody realizes how screwed up this system really is.

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    johnpherron

    almost 5 years ago

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    I too have applied for a lot of jobs with the Fed and if I hear anything at all it is that stupid one liner that states, "you do not possess at least one year's experience in the next lower grade". What an insult after you spent 25 years in the military and possess a Master's Degree. Hire the truly qualified verses who you know and maybe, just maybe, the Government would operate much much better.

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    TechieWriter

    almost 5 years ago

    2 comments

    IT IS ABOUT TIME! MYSELF AS WELL AS MANY AMERICANS HAVE A WEALTH OF EXPERIENCE WHICH COULD BENEFIT THIS COUNTRY A LOT BUT ONCE YOU SERVE YOUR COUNTRY IT SEEMS THE CORRECT THING HAS BEEN TO JUST FORGET ABOUT, YOU. I COME FROM THE VIETNAM ERA AND WE OF THIS ERA DO ESPECIALLY FEEL FORGOTTEN AND PUSHED ASIDE.
    WE COULD HAVE BEEN OFFERED THE OPTION TO SERVE IN THE BORDER PATROL OR EQUIVILENT POSITIONS WHERE OUR RESPECTIVE EXPERIENCE COULD HAVE BENEFITTED ALL.

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    mrohwohlt

    almost 5 years ago

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    I've applied for Gov. jobs, filled the forms and waited for nothing. The same with civi jobs. Fill out the forms submit a res and nothing. So I decided to try on my own. It too is not so easy but, I hired myself :-)

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    tekctrl

    almost 5 years ago

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    I concur with Jane...the system is Broken. I spent twenty years with military communications and computer systems, had a spotless career and TS clearance, and have a Masters degree, yet I can't find work in the system. I finally quit looking, as it's simply an exercise in frustration. Applications and communications are ignored, calls are unreturned, whoever you need to speak with is out on vacation, or "leave a message and we'll get right back to you". Security clearance people are arrogant and arbitrary, denying a clearance request for unspecified reasons and responding with "We don't have to tell you S**T, so get lost!" when asked to support a denial, DoD Directive 5220.6 notwithstanding. You're better off working for AT&T or Sprint or someone like that, Jane.

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    Shadowstands

    almost 5 years ago

    2 comments

    I am presently working for the government as a nurse on a term contract. I make less than I would in the private sector, however the benefits are better, and I am able to work a steady shift, with mandatory overtime.

    At this point, I have found that the standard gossipy, "we only want people just like us" attitude is standard, productivity impacted, and the senior managers are as bad as the workers. The ones who survive and don't participate in the dreck keep their mouths closed, do not get on the bad side of the workplace bullies, and continue to look for transfers out.
    When I was hired, I did the whole nine yards with the KSA's, ended up having to turn in three sealed University transcripts (was told they were "lost"), as well as my nursing school transcripts, my military paperwork (retirement, awards, etc) none of which ended up in my 6 part folders, and I am still fielding the intermittant questions from personnel, which if anyone bothered to read everything I was required to submit, there would be no questions.
    I am convinced that the primary purpose of the actual methods used to hire, orient and train new employees is so bizarre, that if the benefits weren't there, no one in their right mind would want to be a GS.

    And yes, you had better learn who to get face time with, and who to "stroke"....

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    anb1md

    almost 5 years ago

    2 comments

    Just because you have qualifications to work for the government, it takes knowing the right people. HR really needs to take a step to speak with each other and communicate more frequently with themselves in order to communicate with applicants. So many people who apply like you Jane, get pushed out because you are still trying to get in the door, while your being pushed out for those of us in the system already. If there's something wrong with obtaining a clearance, they are bad about telling you that you've been denied a clearance or continue investigating for so long that you "give up." It's not necessarily about what you know, it's who you know. Network to get in the door and patience unfortunetly is required.

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